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Season 3 - Episode 2 - Learning and Living with Aging Parents
Ann Carlino joins the team this month as they discuss how to manage family with aging parents. They also tackle some tips to help younger parents know a few things to do early to help their families later in life.
Well, hello everyone and welcome back to the Anchored Family Ministry podcast But we are three dedicated staff members today with a guest we'll introduce in a minute But Daniel Noondorfer is here with us and Jennifer Dooley and of course on Paul Allen So it's good to be here and we've gone to a monthly format now.
And so this is different. I was kind of like, okay, did I forget how to podcast? But it's like riding a bike. It just comes right back. - I hope so. - We've been doing it every week for about two and a half years and realized we just kind of honestly post COVID.
Now we're really post COVID. It's a distant memory. And we're kind of back full steam with ministries and we've got busy schedules, which we're loving. And we realized it'd probably be...
be better to go to a monthly podcast and also to dive a little deeper into a few topics each year that we feel like would be really beneficial. Sometimes we were kind of reaching, stretching to figure out topics and it was fun.
But this one today, I believe, is going to be very valuable and also to seek out guest professionals or friends or whoever it might be that can shed a little light and give insight beyond what just a few of us.
with our brains can do. So before we do that and introduce our guests and topic, Jennifer, tell us how things are going for you lately. - Pretty good. I mean, it's been a really good January kickoff to 2024.
February's going strong, went to a children's ministry conference last week and that was nice. And my hero, Jenny Carter, who I talk about on here, I feel like a lot, she's retiring.
So... So we celebrated her a little bit, getting ready for a Bible school now. - I have to get her on the podcast. - Oh yeah, she's on the list. - You've mentioned her yet, that'd be great. - Yeah,
but I'm good. I'm good. What about you, Daniel? - I'm good. I just like your outfit. You're decked out in the red. - Thank you, yes. - Yeah, black, white and red, Georgia. - Yeah, I got new glasses that are red.
- You're filling yourself, yeah, exactly. Like let's put it all together. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, things are going good. Is it? it? Wow. January is already gone. Yeah. That's crazy to me.
Man, it barely feels like 2024. And here we are February 8th today. Yeah. That we're recording, but I know it'll be released later. So wow. It's been going good so far. Getting a lot of big things done and getting them into place and all that.
Yes. Launched a new website for the church. Launched a new website. Yes. yes. And continuing to refine it, make it look even better, function even better and serve the church well and all visitors who will run to it and see its beauty.
Yes. And grandeur, yeah. About you. Same. I mean, yeah, I was listening to y 'all just shaking my head saying, yeah, it's been a quick January and a really rich season.
I'm reading more than I've ever read in my life and I'm loving that. and I recommend it for everyone. Read a lot. I guess readers make the best writers, so...
True. Yeah, I think so. I just feel like I really enjoy reading mostly stuff about scripture and the Bible. Very good. Very good. Well, good. It sounds like we've all had a good start.
So hopefully this will be a good start kicking off here with our kind of new format. And today with us we have Ms. Ms. Ann Carlino, and we are so excited to have you here. - Thank you.
- And this was my month to pick a topic. And just the season that I'm in right now, the first thing that came to my head is really how to help with aging parents.
And now this doesn't necessarily mean parents who are in a nursing home. This just means as you are raising your kids, what's going on with your parents? as well. And there's lots of areas that we wanna hit on today.
And Ms. Anne, you've been working with families for a long time. And we're just so excited to have you here today and to get to talk a little bit more. And we just really appreciate you being with us.
- Thank you. Well, I've pedaled many years and mostly in ministry form, working with families and thank you for being with us today. should say, I am on the far end.
I'm part of the grandparent era. So I can talk from experience as well. That's right. You're an expert now, yes. Yes. Well, we appreciate you being here.
And I know I grew up with one of your daughter -in -laws. And so just excited to have you with us. I got to ask. I've always heard that grandkids are like this surprise blessing.
I wouldn't say maybe that grandparents enjoy them more than their own kids, but they sure seem like it sometimes. - Oh, absolutely enjoy them most. You can go out and buy them clothes,
but you don't have to. You don't have to worry about shoe sizes or all the meals. - Yeah, yeah. - Certain times. times, yes. - Yes,
well, tell us a little bit about your family before we jump in here, you have grandkids? - We have two sons and two wonderful daughter -in -laws. And I might add,
I started praying when the boys were teenagers, about the girls they were gonna marry. One of them I said, she is so much like me, it's surprising.
me. It's a blessing to have daughter -in -laws as part of the family and then one son that lives in Tennessee has two children and one son here has one,
all three boys. I'm blessed and my son said, "Ma 'am, you disappointed our second child as a son?" I said, "I know more of what to do with boys than girls." to tell you the truth." Even though I'm second of four girls in my family.
There was a couple of disciple nows in a row where I forget which son he volunteered his home to host. John. John, yeah. And I got to be over there a couple of times with him and it was a great experience,
a really cool family. I know the first year the wife was home and so, you know, mills, all that jazz. But I... know the second time we did it, she was out of town.
And it was, I don't want to say it was a little more chaotic, but I was working that weekend. I had to go to work and get it off. And I come and I see John and the other chaperone was just totally asleep.
And the kids were all just in the back, they were all in the backyard. And I was like, well, you guys must really need an app. I go out there and-- and play war. I don't remember what we did with them,
but it was really fun. Great family enjoyed it a lot. Yeah. Lisa and I grew up, we went to Brooks together and her family, my family, we used to tell gate for Georgia games. So,
you know, the red and black Lisa and I really did grow up together. Yeah. Oh, yes. She is the organized one in the family. Yeah. So her being out of town was probably not cool.
that we can. >> I kind of thought so, anyways. >> I'm gonna be out of town this weekend, I mean this year for ours. All right, well, y 'all ready to jump in? >> Yeah. >> Miss Annie,
are you ready? >> I guess so. >> Okay, so since we do talk, hopefully a lot of you listening are raising kids at home or have plans to raise kids at home,
let's jump in with how can we help our kids kids understand what's happening? You've already told us a little bit beforehand the importance of grandparents being involved. So hit on that a little bit,
and then how we can help our kids understand what's happening as their grandparents are aging and moving into different phases of life. - From the beginning, I knew I wanted to be as involved as possible.
I went and spent a week each time my grandsons were born in Tennessee. to help at the beginning. But I wanted to do things with them and get to know them each on an individual level.
And so I enjoyed crafts. So what I would do, I bought a huge beach bag. And every time I would go up to Tennessee,
I would have it with me. And that would be the first thing they would want to do again today. was to see what grandma brought and they called it grandma's bag. So from the very beginning they all cooked with me when they would come to our house.
From the time they were in, stood in the chair, I bought children's stirring spoons and all kinds of things. You were very purposeful in these things.
This wasn't just a, "Oh, we'll be there too." But you were very... intentional with being a part of their lives. - Oh, yes. And they also knew that I would discipline them as well.
Had a time -out check. - Yes. - And it wasn't just a free -for -all when they'd come visit. - That's important. I think you were saying, "Grandkids are such a blessing and it's nice." But that's part of it too.
It's not just a free -for -all when you're with grandparents. - Oh. showing you love sometimes through discipline as well. - And I talked with them about Jesus loving them from the time they were babies.
So we have definitely been a part of their lives. And of course they would always run to Paw -Paw. And he would have his dad jokes that would just bring you a blank stare.
>> They'll get them eventually. >> Good. Well, as you were telling us, when they come over and visit now or when you're visiting them, things are different now with them being a little bit older.
I've seen my parents when my kids go over, sometimes chief can't give you a piggyback ride, chief is what they call my dad. So these changes, sometimes it's a slow change and sometimes it's a little bit almost an overnight change.
So what are some things that we can tell parents to help their kids through this? - Well, they need to tell them what's going on so they will know what to expect before they see the grandparents.
In 2020, I had a benign brain tumor removed. And so since then, I have slowed to half pace. (laughs) especially in terms of playing outside with them and picking the ball and things like that.
But I tell them how I'm feeling. I have a lot of allergies. And when Kasem comes over sometimes, I say, I'm not feeling well today. So you'll need to just play on your own.
And he knows where everything is. - And to honesty, you know, with the kids, don't try to hide. things. I mean, of course, you want to put it on the level of whatever age appropriate level for the kids.
Once they hit 10, they can understand a lot more than sometimes we give them credit for. Oh, yes. But Jason will also ask me questions and we will talk. Okay.
He has recently started saying he's accepted Jesus and wants to know more about the Bible. A problem. shouldn't say this on air.
But he said, "I ask mommy and daddy questions, but I'm saving the hard ones for you." And I thought about it and I realized that's because I can take more time with him to talk about it and see what he's thinking about.
And he knows since he started when he was young it's not something you know you're waiting until a certain age You've been talking about Jesus with him all along. So he knows who to come to. Yeah.
Yeah, not that John and Lisa wouldn't, but he does. I'm sure he understands that. Right. I know your kids are in a different phase and, you know, thinking about when you were growing up with grandparents,
do y 'all remember anything that would spark anything here? If you're just talking about spending time with your grandparents, just in general, you know, you know, you're just talking about spending time with your grandparents. I would just encourage all grandparents. I would just say,
you know, and the time you spend with them is so valuable. I remember spending time with my grandfather and it was always fun. Sometimes it would be a thing. I was like, eh,
whatever. But once we got into it, I just don't want grandparents to think, ah, well, they don't enjoy spending time here or something like that or blah, blah, blah,
blah. I mean, just not sure they're going to value that time when it's not there. And so to pour into your grandkids and do all the things, tell them about Jesus and play with them and discipline them and all that stuff.
I just want to say it's valuable. Yeah. I think so. We've done episodes where we've talked about mentoring and how to impact the next generation disciple. And most of those came down to time.
And we realized that when we talked about it, it was usually time we had with someone who was older who had the time to spend with us. And I think that's one of the reasons grandparents say that about grandkids,
you know, is like the amount of time and wisdom that you say, well, my priorities have changed a lot. And now it's this person or these people that are my family tree. And I think growing up,
my family was on the other side of the. coast, they were all in California. So I didn't get to spend much time with my grandparents, but the time I did was so valuable. And of course wished for more,
but it was just wonderful times of whether it was fishing or just being with them and being disciplined and seeing the previous generation's values. Kids are gleaming that big time.
I mean, they are seeing the values of their predecessor. predecessor, you know, and why their parents are the way they are a little bit, you know, extremely valuable. Yeah.
My older sister and I would actually, my mother was born in Fayetteville back when it was just the courthouse and it blocked around the square.
So my grandmother still lived here and we were in Atlanta. My father passed her to church there and every summer, my sister and older sister and I would come down,
grandmother taught GAs at First Baptist Chapel, and she would teach us. She had all these boards with pictures and scriptures,
and we would learn our next G .A. step. And we'd go back and pass so we could be in our nation's service. And we would spend a week down here and she would take us to visit the neighbors.
She was older, so we didn't have a lot of activity, but we learned our GA stamps. - Yeah. - And that was a very special time. - Yeah,
yeah. I have my badges from all of my years and some logistical things. So my dad really has been diligent the past few months. of going through pictures from when he was young And he's writing descriptions of things like my kids love it And my youngest looks exactly like my dad did when he was that age And so it's really neat to watch my kids learning About my dad growing up or about his parents and all kinds of
things with just some logistics of dad He's putting some pictures in photo albums with the description description next to it. So I think those kind of things that heritage is important, maybe even to write down or to have a recording of or story worth,
those books that you can have made with the email question every week, things like that are so important, I think, to pass down in writing. And you showed us earlier a book that you had made for all three of your grandsons.
They each have a copy of them with y 'all, with the email question every week. So I think that's one of the things that you can do scripture that just matched up with all the different activities, even taking them out, which is definitely one of my favorite things to do. - Right.
- So speaking about some logistical things like that, we're calling ourselves relatively young here. - Yeah. - Right? - Young guns. - Yeah, I put young -ish.
Yeah. - Yeah, I'm in my prime. - Yeah, you are. - Just wait, I'll be 75 next month, so just wait. - Okay. so 40s, maybe a little higher than that for all over there.
- I'm in the 50s too. - But what can we do now to start helping our families with aging? I mean, what can we do with wills?
Or we started talking about burial plots when we were talking about this podcast. People don't know when to do these kind of things. Logistically, can you give us some advice here? Well,
the earlier, the better. As soon as our boys were born, I started thinking about who would take care of them if something happened to us.
And so we basically wrote our first will based on my sister that said she would take them, you know, care for them because we certainly didn't have any money or anything.
anything other than a house to leave to them but that was a major issue and Joe and I lived in New Orleans and married and lived there for seven years so both our boys were born there but we moved here because Joe kept saying I don't want to race them in New Orleans and so we moved here the summer before John started kindergarten to guard And it was at that point I said,
"You know, something happened to you. Joe's driving into Atlanta to work at Charity Hospital." I said, "I don't think I could think through where to be buried.
And I want us to go ahead and get our burial spots." Of course,
it's not full. full of me, but we still have our two places there because if you died in a far wreck and I was devastated unprepared, I don't think I could think through where to look for a burial.
Most young families don't do a will and they don't think about burial plots because that's just not on their radar. It should be, like you said. when you saw your kids,
you were thinking about them. And so this is really for those you love, for your family. It's not fun to think about, but it is a fact of life. You should have a priority that you work to get a will.
It's not that hard anymore. It's very easy nowadays with technology to be able to have a will and then to at least write out a document or somehow talk about the steps you've done.
like. My dad, for example, he's in his mid -80s now and every year, I mean, he updates these documents. He has it down to his science because he's thinking about mom.
He wants to take care of her and vice versa. He wants it to be easier on her or on him if one of them eventually passes, which they will. And so, that takes a huge weight off of us as it's kids.
- We were talking just the other day that we needed to update our wheel 'cause we've sold some property and bought some other rental property, things like that. - And there's other things that I know that my dad had us sign papers and go to the bank and who's gonna be the executor of this and who has this permission to access social security boxes and all of these kind of things.
I would never think about that. ever. Like that's not how my mind works, I guess. But my dad, you know, with a financial background, this is very important to him.
And I know your dad, having things in order, this is something that we don't think about, but we should go ahead and have these things in writing. And it is for the ones we love,
even though it's uncomfortable for us to maybe even think about or consider. So the earlier that we think about it, better, like you said. Right. Well, and even now, I mentioned to Joe just the other day,
we were talking about something, and I said, you know, he pays the bills and all that. I used to be more involved in it, but I said, I don't know all of our accounts and where things are located.
We just need to get a book and write it all down so that whoever needs it. and pull it out and see what we have and where it's located.
Well, that's smart. It's not just the big things. It's the day to day kind of things to to pay the bill. You don't want the lights to be turned out. I mean, those kind of things. That's very important.
Yeah. I love that idea of just taking care of the people you'll leave behind by creating some kind of document or something. Everything you said just made perfect sense,
like the people who are left afterwards there and disarray and they're dealing with the grief of it all. And so if you can take the burden off of them in the ways that you can, wow, that shows so much care and love to those people.
That's amazing. I did think of one other thing too. I think it's really valuable. Also like a document that shows at least how you might want the funeral. funeral to go. Because sometimes there's disagreements among family members that are left behind if there isn't such a document and it can cause strife and fights and things like that because you're her dad or you heard mom say it a certain way and yet something's
happened, being performed another one, you have disagreements and stuff like that. And it's better if something's coming straight from the horse's mouth and it's been written up and then you can say it. clear as day right here because yeah,
I know that that's another thing that can happen at a funeral and arrangements. All that is disagreements and all that jazz. Yeah. So what kind of resources are out there like did my dad just know to do these things?
Are there, I know there are financial advisors that help you with investment and kinds of things. But are there people out there who this is what they do? is they help get these things in order?
There are financial planners that help with more of that and help you walk through it. A couple of things I've thought about recently, I want to take my two daughter -in -laws through my house and tell them about things I have.
Yes, I have family heirloom. heirloom furniture, and I have a plate in my China cabinet that I brought back from London to my mother,
and I even have some of mother's wedding gifts. On the bottom, she made little notes about who gave it to them and that it was a wedding gift.
I know my sons wouldn't listen to it off. I did find it interesting. You said daughter -in -law. Yeah. I agree. John's already told me he's gone. going back to dumpstrap to the door because I'm a collector too.
Yes, my dad is too. And that's another thing that's been on my mind is to clean out closets. I've got games that are too young for the boys now that have never been opened.
I know, you know, just forgot to get them out. And things like that. And so I've been trying to donate a lot of the things because they're still good and we're not using them.
And I've told my daughter -in -law before you buy anything, ask me if I have. I gave one daughter -in -law KitchenAid mixer because I know it's so heavy.
I hated to drag it out from underneath. I had a smaller mixer that I flat all the time. These are really good practical things. I mean, that's a practical thing. that if you're living life and something happens tragically,
these are those things that family members are gonna have to step in. - It shows a lot of love. - It does, yes. - I mean, there's like I said, financial planners that work with families.
There are elder lawyers is what they're called who really help with estates and wills and trusts, which is a big deal because it's great if you have a big happy family, but let's be honest,
it's great if you have a big happy family. most families, if you extend it out just a little bit, there's somebody that you would say, no, that person is not getting anything because of their lifestyle right now.
Maybe they're struggling in some form of addiction and you don't want to just give them a bunch of money. And so if you're concerned with your mom and dad right now, sit down and lovingly work through this stuff with them.
A lot of people don't want to talk about it, but it is worth it or else. else it just creates chaos afterwards or a lot of pain and anger, frustration, that nobody made any of these decisions and they were adults.
They should have made decisions. Yeah. We talked about not wanting to bring it up, but I do like that it's showing the people, "Hey,
here's a thing that I have for you when I pass," is a great little introduction on how to start the conversation. conversation of it's going to happen one of these days and what's so great as Christians who have placed their faith in Jesus Christ and we have such security in our salvation and what's going to happen in the afterlife.
I know we may have doubts and question thoughts like that, but the further you shore up that faith, the stronger it gets. And if you have sons, daughters, grandchildren, whomever,
friends, family who aren't safe. you can say, "I have this thing for you in the past away," and it brings up the conversation naturally, and you can be like, "Hey, I'm just gonna let you know I'm gonna be good. I'm gonna be in heaven with God,
Jesus, and here's how I can tell you why. It's not because of anything I've done that I'm a good person knows because of the grace of God that I'm saved, and because I placed my faith in Him. So certainly you're gonna mourn and cry for me,
but also know, "Hey, I'm gonna be good." You know, I love you. that. I love hearing, I was lucky, my dad told me his testimony, you know, I started making it a habit,
asking some family members who say they're Christians, hey, tell me about when you were saved, so I could hear their testimonies and know for myself, oh, this was a moment,
'cause sometimes people just say they're Christians when they're really not, but stuff like that, that's good to know, good things to know. - My dad's been going through a lot. - Right, I mean. mean, I get pictures weekly. You want this?
You want this? - I do that too. - No, no, just get rid of it, I don't want it. - I do that. I take pictures and send it and say, "Do you want this?" - It's so funny, but going through all these things,
it's amazing some things he's found. It was my grandmother, my mom's mom, was recognized for her leadership at her church. And this would have been like early '70s,
so this was... a time of women necessarily being in leadership in a church or that being recognized as much. And it was a small church,
but it was pages of who attended the celebration, what was served, but then it was her testimony. And then her service testimony as well,
like where she had served at the church and how she had served at the church. she got involved and people that she had impacted. And I was like, I never knew this. This is fantastic. So having that testimony or these things that we can look back on to know more about salvation experiences,
service experiences, just the history, your history in Christ, that's part of it. I believe my parents taught me, their parents taught me. them, like, this heritage of the truth.
It's neat to be able to look back on all of those moments, to hear them, you know, or to read them. And I try to tell the boys and my sons and daughters,
daughter -in -laws, things about the family. Last year, I had two sets of sterling silver, and I used to use them when we would have have dinner parties and all,
which we do not do anymore. But I decided I wanted to give that to them now, so I gave them each a set of silver. One was from Joe's aunt,
who gave it to us when we married, and the other one was from my mother, and then it was some pieces that had MEC engraved on it. That was from her great,
great aunt. who bought it after her husband's hand was shot off in the Civil War, and he received a hundred dollars or something.
You know, so there's family history throughout everything, and I just want to see them enjoy it now. Yes. And to know that they care. When we die and they sort things out,
they may be too old to have dinner parties soon. I don't know that I will. be around that long, but I won't see them in joy. So I'd rather give it to them now. And when they ask for something,
if I'm not using it, they are more than welcome to it. My dad was an only child and used to save all his toys, apparently in pristine condition. I mean, like in the boxes,
original pieces, I'm like, what are you doing? He would not let me or my brother touch them. Oh, thanks. were not for us to play with Let me just tell you what he does for those grandkids.
They have ruined more Because they play with and not ruin them, but you know, they play with them and he lets them but he's seeing them enjoy it That is anything there We've talked a little bit about the spiritual side of things and as we're dealing with parents and I have not necessarily dealt with a lot of this but when parents are aging I don't know what kind of thoughts they're going through their heads.
Is there a way we could help them more on the spiritual side of things like with their security in their salvation or mending relationships? Are those the kind of things we should be asking our parents or is that something we would expect them to come to us?
What about those kind of conversations? That would depend on the family that you you grew up in, because, you know, like we've said, we knew our parents were Christians and had a testimony and taught us about Christ every time with Daddy being the pastor,
every time the church doors were open, we were there. And so there wasn't any doubt there about it. But, you know, with other family members...
you might as well talk with them as well. And I always tell my son and daughter -in -laws, "Let me know what to pray for.
Let me know even now." I don't even doubt that they're Christians, but let me know what you need to pray for. I'm praying for John to get a work that he needs.
And my other son, that his business doing well and that's something you said to us before we started recording like this is a way you can serve your family like if you're in a wheelchair or you're stuck at home you know in any situation even if you're just feeling sick one day you're still awake you're still able to pray so that's a powerful way to impact your family.
I prayed for them all before. but it helps with them to tell you what they want you to pray for so you can be more specific about it and know what their needs are.
I don't necessarily know what my son or daughter -in -law in Tennessee or my grandson's up there need unless they tell me. Right. And even John and Lisa,
you know, they're busy. and when they are telling me something on the phone, I'll say, "I will pray about it," whether they say, "Pray for this," or not. That intentionality of being part,
not just hanging out with them or babysitting for when they need a date night or things that are happening, but for their whole being. I would say finding a way to impart spiritual truth to your children and grandchildren is so important.
valuable. My dad has started writing a little devotional from his studies that he sends out to all the family, different groups he sends it out through texts,
about three a week that he sends out to each family. And a lot of times we reply to the grandkids too, they have their cell phones, you know, and so they get these little devotional he writes,
I can easily say that'll be, that is the most valuable. valuable thing he's passing down to our family for sure is is that fate you know because everything will eventually rust and yeah but the faith that's handed down is so incredibly powerful is he making a hard copy of those devotional I probably will I think that's what I'll take on eventually is to put that into a book at some point so yeah because he's just
been faithful he's an engineer electrical engineer you know and so he makes sure they're all exactly 100 words. I don't know how he does it, but he's got them all down to exactly 100. That's what he does.
Yeah. He enjoys it. So that's fun. It's just neat that each family gets that and can then talk to their kids about it. Well,
that's wonderful that I was just sitting here thinking, but that's not tangible. I'm still the old school. I won't pay before you see. I brought my paper with me. And I was just thinking,
don't lose them on your phones. One more thing here. I thought we could send some time on just real quick. Let's talk about balance. If my dad was an only child and so when his parents started going downhill,
we were young, both of my grandparents. both my dad's parents were sick at the same time. Just happened to be my kindergarten graduation. And so I remember tension that was in our house because of just being torn on both sides of things.
So maybe you could share some wisdom about the balance between caring for parents and caring for children, how to work together with that and then, you know,
make sure... that you're spending time here, there. - Well, and I think this is where having two husband and wife in the family make the largest difference.
Many days, Joe and I would say, okay, what are you gonna do today? Here's what I'm doing. I'm sure you've all done that too, to sort of divide it out and it worked better that way because you can coordinate.
and always make sure the children are taken care of when you're a single parent. And this is where the church family comes in, 'cause there are people that are available,
if you just ask, that are willing to bring your children home from school or let them come to their house after school. This is where the church needs to be.
especially mindful and to volunteer, not necessarily organize people, but encourage people to do what they can.
- Sometimes it's just sitting. I mean, it really is just being able to sit or to pick up kids from school or run through real quick and just drop them off somewhere and not even have to babysit.
but just the getting people from here to there. - Right, logistics are the hard part. - Yes, I do have one more thing. I said that was it, but the situation we're in right now with my mom is struggling with memory and all that that entails.
My dad is her caregiver. Talk about how we can help caregivers a little bit. Whether it's your parent or just like you said, somebody... in the church or community that you can really pour into the people who are taking truly right there next to the aging parent.
I think first of all just say I am available to help when you need me to whether it's to keep a child or go sit like you said one thing I've started doing for people.
people, since we are the older group now in Sunday school or in the church that I know, is if somebody is sick, I'll make homemade chicken noodle soup with organic bone broth.
That's a huge deal. Since I can't come to church because my allergies and all, I've had to say, "Okay Lord, what can I do? How can I help?" help?" So phone calls,
I don't do as much as I should, but I try to call. So Joe, on the way over here, I need to call this person. I haven't helped her in a while, and she's caring for her husband with dementia.
We have to look for just simple ways. If we get creative, we can think of these to help, even if they don't want to. ask. - Yes, I think that's a big deal.
I'm gonna be there at this time. Well, Ms. Ann, we have just, I've learned, I've learned so much from this. Thank you so much for being here today and for just sharing some wisdom in this area.
I really appreciate it. I know the phase that I'm in. These are conversations I need to be having and questions I need to share. ask. So we hope listeners out there that this was beneficial to those who listen.
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